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Impregnator Kings/Witch of Fecundity Chat Thread aristocrat 06/22/2022 (Wed) 10:05:02 Id:414a93 No. 36
Hello everyone. I hope everyone has made the 'jump' so to speak from pregchan to 'new' pregchan. Things are changing. We now have a board separate from /d/ where both stories can be posted, with images! We now don't have to worry (so much) about being forced off of the /d/ board and losing past threads. That said, I ask that everyone continue to use this thread for elaborate planning and emotional reactions to the story. Experience has taught me having a place for that separate from the actual story thread is the best way to handle things. Less pressure on the thread limit, and more space for people to vote calmly. Actual new threads for both Impregnator Kings and Witch of Fecundity will arrive soon. Though Impregnator Kings was a bit in a weird spot when the site went down, so I will need to decide the best way to approach that before officially reviving the thread. In the meantime, Witch of Fecundity ended on a vote in progress. "Choice time: >Learn the red truth. It sounds neat. >Learn the Pax Bernkastel invocation. It sounds like you really should know it. >Learn the truth behind the Bernkastel-Lambdadelta conflict. Or at least, Erika's version." Three votes were tallied: one for option 1. Two for option 3. If anyone else wishes to vote, please do so here before I revive WoF. Murble, CallMeLufcifer, and Shadow have had their votes counted. At any rate, it is good to have a board dedicated to stories and I look forward to using it. I hope it's enjoyable.
>>36 Option 3 Glad to see you here Aristo. I hope the others can find their way here as well. As for Witch of Fecundity, we should also later ask Beatrice for her side of the conflict.
>>45 This will happen. It is only a question of when.
I'm still around, just lurking as usual. Living up to my namesake and all that.
Option three
Okay, new posts go up tonight. With or without updates, just to have them up there.
Okay, Witch of Fecundity is up, but obviously it will take a little longer to put up Impregnator Kings. I will do that tomorrow or so.
>>36 Option 3 good to see you found your way here:) btw ive meant to ask for some time, i know its community driven but when do you expect to see first so to speak magic filled belly in this story?
>>97 > magic filled belly What do you mean by that?
>>103 well, she can alter her pregnancy with magic
>>108 Edwys has access to sperm from Tharja as a source and can make herself pregnant when she likes, but the only current spell she has to alter it is to maintain her pregnancy at a certain "stopping point" and hold it in until she chooses to go into labor. Beatrice set some preferences for how she'd prefer Edwys handle her pregnancies and any actual children she births. Edwys has not actually impregnated herself yet, but there will be votes to do so when it's appropriate, of course. The story currently has Edwys learning more about magic and witch-culture so it will be some time.
On a side note, I'm seeing that the ID tags are no longer consistent when someone posts. Which means I can't be sure if a person is using their one vote. Not sure how to handle this. Perhaps I should get a trip or encourage others to? Though the incidents we've had with people intending to double-vote are rare, and I certainly want to believe everyone only uses their one vote and that we are beyond manipulation like that. At any rate, I'll think about it. I'm aware vpns and simply replying from other addresses would also alter the IDs even if they were consistent.
I forgot to tabulate the vote totals for the latest Impregnator Kings vote, but it's clear Sister Kiara's meeting won. Apologies for that.
Gotta agree with Shadow on the latest vote- this feels less like Kiara flirting with us and more like her honest respect and admiration for what we've done for Rosette.
Do you think that the previous priest told Thomas about Edward's reputation? Especially their conversation about Edward no longer confessing to lust, because he does not intend to change? Sure, we can hope that Edward's other confessions were kept private, but this particular character trait is explicitly no longer part of the confession, and therefore the priest could have argued that it is okay to share this detail with his successor. And if that is the case, Kiara certainly could have eavesdropped. Hot as she is, I don't trust her. Just as a precaution, we should always assume that Edward's confessions are at least semi-public anyway. Who knows what the members of the church tell each other behind closed doors. I think we have always followed that regardless, but I wanted to state it anyway now that the temptation to have intimate conversations is so much higher than before.
>>147 I think Ed is safe with a nun if he gets in her pants, so to speak. I think that'd create a bond of secrecy; a deflowered nun would probably get booted pretty quickly. Of course *getting* in he pants would be a necessary first step.
LOL, what a drama queen...
I need a day. Sorry.
>>238 No need to apologize. We all need breaks sometime.
The suspense waiting for the tower surprise in IK might actually be killing me.
>>318 Suspense train keeps rolling! Just think of it as building up the sweet antici-
Sorry for taking so long, everyone. Just been busy and I want to give these next updates the attention they deserve. They will come, and apologies for the wait.
>>325 -pation. And I'm sure the payoff will be worth it, dude, no sweat.
Hi everyone. I want to apologize for not having an update, yet. That is coming soon. However, I've been able to tie an exact reason as to why I've been unable to keep up updates like before, and I think I realize why. The experiment of trying to alternate between writing updates for Impregnator Kings and Witch of Fecundity every day is a huge failure. It just divided my attention too much. Especially with the tone of each story at the moment. Edward is experiencing plot and intrigue but also a lot of sexiness and pregnant-oriented play, while Edwys is getting a bit of lore and the audience is 'shaping' what sort of character they want Witch Edwys to be. These call for extremely different ways to approach the story, and writing one then the other was just... a bad idea. At the same time, moving to the new site has given me a bit of 'growing pain'. I can't get used to this blue bg, but that's the least of it. Getting to post images in the /c/ board puts me in a bit of a "the dog has caught the car" situation. It's the perfect solution, but on the other hand actually seeing how far Impreg. Kings or WoF was being pushed back page-wise inspired me to think "Oh, I'd better get back to work." (This is not a request to flood /c/, please don't do that.) At any rate, I'm in the process of focusing on Impregnator Kings and making that the priority. Witch of Fecundity will get a bit of a back seat, at least until I can maintain one without losing the other. I hope it's enjoyable.
>>353 Do what you need to do. I'm just glad that you're still enjoying working on this for the most part. And as one who has juggled multiple rps with the same person before, I can sort of understand the feeling that you're describing. Glad that you're figuring what works, and take your time.
>Do what you need to do. I'm just glad that you're still enjoying working on this for the most part. Second, don't sweat it. I'm glad you think you found a workaround, as long as it keeps writing enjoyable. As far as the appearance goes, there may be some Lynxchan add-ons/plugins ala 4chanX. I kind of doubt it though. Personally I like the dark theme, easy on the eyes.
Where is pregnant in hentai thread in pregchan
>>353 Try not to be too down on yourself about it. It was an experiment, and you learned from it. I'm just glad you're doing okay. I think I can speak for everyone here when I say we're with you. Also yeah, I'd recommend playing around with the alternate themes at the top. I run the Cyberpunk dark theme as well.
Man, I'm reading through the threads and the part where anons chose logic instead of attacking Oana's character in the attempted Magna Carta setting was so cringe. Anyone could have seen it was going that way for miles.
>>353 Welp, don't know what to say, but I do look forward to whatever you cook up next. On an unrelated note, you asked us to put things we'd want to see over in this thread. Would you be down for the witches - or particularly Tharja - using magic to make themselves lactate an extra amount, or earlier in pregnancy, or constantly whether they're pregnant or not? The nursing play with Mania was super hot, snd obvs it's be great to donthat with Tharja as well. Could also be done to some of the maids if they're going to help raise the lady-soldiers' kids. Obviously part of the magic is that it shouldn't reduce fertility like breastfeeding often can... perhaps increase it instead lol. Another thing... Tharja's confident she's having a boy; is it possible to arrange things via magic so that all of our other children, or the vast majority of them, are girls? This might help with succession later. It might be a bit late though.
Did we inherit a kingdom from someone who was going North Korea mode?
>>375 Mm, Vlad definitely kept things relatively austere, but I dunno if I'd say he was full North Korea.
>>376 In the context of Crusader Kings II, "North Korea Mode" refers to a ruler who holds all titles of County or higher themselves within their realm.
>>377 Ah. Then yes
Yes! Please put things you would like to see in the story in this thread. Audience request for an encounter with a pregnant woman produced the Mania character. >>374 I do have something in mind to appeal to a lactation kink, but I won't say what, yet. This exact request with these exact mechanics may or may not be involved. >>375 Yes! That exact term was used, too! I'm really happy to hear a (presumed?) new reader pick up on that.
>>379 Now I am forgetting the name portion... yes this is me.
in terms of things that might be focused on in regards to specifics, both some degree of distinctive overdue-ness and-or extreme pregnancy would be very fitting and interesting, considering the "it's magic, I ain't gotta explain shit" caveat the setting has built in.
>>380 Ever since the appearance of Venti, I always wanted to ask this question; will there be a possibility of other characters from Genshin Impact to appear in the future, specifically from Liyue or Inazuma?
>>373 I overstated saying it was cringe, but I still maintain it was a mistake.
>>381 Wholeheartedly agree, though overdue pregnancies typically come with complications. If there was a way to use magic or alchemy or whatever to sidestep those, and there was some sort of ritual or spell for the girls to stay pregnant longer, get muuuch bigger and milkier, and give birth to bigger, healthier, stronger babies, that'd be pretty darn hot. The idea that they'd be willing to do that to themselves is... quite the turn on, I'll be honest. That, along with magic on Edward to make him more fertile/have more sexual endurance/produce waaaay more cum. Dunno if it's anyone else's thing but having a horny breeding kink spellcasting wife seems like it could be an asset, but generally magic is implied to not be intended to be used willy-nilly so idk. As far as the travails of birth go, is orgasmic/pleasurable birth anything that aristocrat or anyone else would be into? Anyway, getting into this, see it's quite long-running and moves at a stately pace, but props to aristocrat for keeping it going so long. It was a bit shaky there at the start when it was still taking form but it's matured into something very fun. I've got a monster x humanoid female story with plenty of pregnancy and breeding that's reader driven here if anyone wants to give it a look: https://fiction.live/stories/Dragon-s-Desires/YXnct7ttQYgQPD4Qj/Late-Winter-Early-Spring-369/g4JFe6vTCMZb6vQwp
>>386 I linked to a later chapter, you can use the dropdown menu to go back to the beginning.
>>386 While I can see the appeal of an orgasmic/pleasurable birth, I personally cannot see myself enjoying that kind of content if it pushes through. Childbirth is conceptually a blessing and curse of life. The struggle and pains it takes for a mother to carry out the pregnancy before birthing a baby in great difficulty and effort. Taking away the conflicts or negative factors and converting it into something almost risk-free...defeats the whole purpose of what makes labor and childbirth so fascinatingly realistic. But that's my two cents on it. End of the day, it all depends on what the majority is all for.
>>390 Yeah I figured there'd be people who like both. Maybe adding pleasure without taking away the pain? IDK. It also might not be the kind of thing that most people on pregchan or aristocrat are looking for, more just my thing.
>>391 It's been like six years, but IIRC in her very first sex scene Tharja said she liked pain, so there might be something there. For what it's worth, I'd certainly like to see at least one orgasmic/euphoric birth, but not all of them. Ed's got enough baby mamas that there's room for both, I'd say.
>>392 True. But being there for our lovely breeders and then cuddling them after they've done the great exertion of bringing out babies into the world does sound like a wholesome scene. Whether they're having orgasmic/euphoric birth or not.
>>392 There are other ways to introduce a little pain. Spanking works for Elizabeth for example. Maybe nipple clamps for Tharja? Speaking of... I'd like to see Ed being more dominant. Could be with Elizabeth, could be with someone else who likes it. Maybe Venti or Cordelia? The pain play could be an aspect of it, but does not have to be.
>>394 Nipple clamps for a lactating Tharja sounds like a lot of fun...
>>395 Oh yeah, that's hot. Imagine coming home to Tharja in the evening, her whimpering because her tits are so full, having been clamped all day... Sounds veeery hot.
>>396 And then milking her and enjoying her sweet bounty. Or Tharja and Edward enjoying a milky Elizabeth's body, treating her like a milk dispenser for morning breakfast after being clamped for a day and a night...
>>384 All I can say here is introducing new characters to IK is always a delicate balance. There needs to be reasons for Edward, the King, to interact with them. And also how they would fit with interacting with the characters who are already there. There's also the issue that IK began many years ago. Of course Genshin did not exist back then so there was no intent to ever include a character who would have a similar personality or background. But, I can see what I can do, as always. I will keep this in mind.
>>399 Yeah, the, uh, cast "bloat" is always going to be an issue in a quest like this. And pretty soon there will be kids to keep track of...
I really like orgasmic birth as well. I think having both witches and human women provide an opportunity for both orgasmic and "standard" births, if Aristo wants to play things that way.
>>401 Maybe it's a witch thing? I imagine Tharja would be into it, and Beatrice would be slightly embarrassed.
I don't think we should be trying to force kinks into the game that don't organically make themselves clear (I'm not entirely a fan of Elizabeth's whole slave routine, but if she's happy, then whatever). While it would certainly be intriguing to see what sorts of fun magic can instill into pregnancy and birth, let's see what opportunities present themselves as they come along.
>>403 We shouldn't try to force it in the quest thread, I agree, but I think it's worth posting about here so we can see if aristocrat vibes with jt.
>>400 Agreed. We can't let the cast get more and more bloated until the story can't even move forward. If we spend too much time developing smaller characters we'll get painfully stuck. Making a strong character is a laborious process. You can't expect someone to pop out an army of them without straining themself and stretching the plot.
>>405 Any more pregnancy puns and your post would have been premature. XD
Hmmm, I wonder what Tharja and Beatrice have in store for us...
Would funny if another person voted for Sully for a three way tie. But then again, that only points to how well Aristo wrote the characters to warrant such a split fanbase.
Gotta admit, I'm a little surprised at how many votes Beatrice is getting. I know she's a popular character, but after all the "we should check on X or go see Y" comments that have been made since we woke up, I figured we'd want to start with one of the three we haven't even seen nude since we woke up, two of whom we're seeing for the first time since, not the one we've had several encounters with since. But everyone has to vote their heart, so each their own.
>>435 I mean, I would definitely like to see Sully and Noi, but like I said in the thread, Beatrice, as both a noble and our "official" mistress would expect us to come to her first. Or at least that's my thoughts.
>>436 That doesn't hold much water for me. I don't know that Beatrice much CARES about her status as perceived by mere mortals when she's in disguise- short of Edward himself, anyway. And to that, she knows where she is on the pecking order, she knows she was one of the first we did anything with upon waking up. But each their own.
>>437 ...I didn't mean to repeat myself in that last line, lol.
>>437 You know, that's honestly a good point......
>>436 That's why I specifically asked aristo if there were any relationship repercussions based on who we chose. He said that there are not, but implied that choice order could still have an outcome on how the scene ultimately takes place. I assume this is the 'payoff' part of the narrative. I don't think there's going to be many downsides to choices here.
>>441 Think of it this way: picking Beatrice last won't make her feel 'snubbed' and make her angry until Edward apologizes or something. But she might be amused and make a comment or two if chosen first. Same for all the other girls. I want people to focus on what girl they want to see first. Though what reaction they want to hear from the girl can be part of it.
Hello everyone. My name is The Scientist, and I am an older fan of Impregnator Kings. I was very involved with the story at that time, and was present for the infamous "magic v.s. religion" choice. However, I have not been closely following it since mid-to late 2016. Life just got entirely too busy for me to actively keep up with it. In the interim, particularly within the last two years, I have begun walking the path of the occult, however inconsistently, becoming a practitioner of what is known as Chaos Magic, with Beatrice as my Patron Goddess. I recall that her womb was among the hardest, if not the hardest, place for Edward's seed to take root, and had even hypothesized that my beloved Beatrice may be barren at the time. Which is why the sentence "the six women you've made pregnant" (paraphrasing, of course) took me by complete surprise. The story is far too long and I am so far behind that it would be unpractical for me to try to catch up on reading it, especially with how little free time I find myself with these days. I have, however, been jumping in at various points when I randomly decide to check pregchan, or when a choice presented is just too striking to ignore. I do, however, want to read the moment where it was revealed, by either Beatrice herself or due to the circumstances of Edward waking up, that my Magnificently Glorious Infinite Golden Witch had become pregnant. So I was wondering, did the reveal happen before or after Edward's six month deep six?
>>460 It was revealed when Edward woke up from his sleep.
>>461 I figured that was when it happened. Thank you so much!
Thank you all, particularly Aristo, for keeping this story going over the years. Your love, attention, devotion, and loyalty to the characters help strengthen them and allows them to live on without being forgotten. As a mere Chaos Magician, I can only do so much to strengthen my Queen, especially since there is no hope of ascension. But every day you read this story, you strengthen her. So for that, I thank you.
>>475 Thank you, but I really must emphasize when it comes to characters in Impregnator Kings, they have basis in their original source material. I can't make any claim to having created the character out of full cloth. Even if Impregnator King's Beatrice is not the same in terms of backstory, or place in the setting, the same general idea of Beatrice's personality is there. You may want to try reading and appreciating Umineko no naku koro ni. The Beatrice character is really Ryuk07's and he deserves the high praise.
Disclaimer: I haven't been closely following, so I do not know the current status of the characters mentioned. If I recall correctly, I think I remember Beatrice mentioning at one point how Elizabeth would be an excellent candidate for ascension, provided there was a book available. This makes more sense knowing her background, and may indicate that she wishes to liberate Elizabeth from her current lifestyle. Forgive my morbid thinking here, but Margaret's execution would provide the perfect opportunity for Elizabeth to ascend with her hands clean, provided Erika arrives before the execution and fulfills her promise to Beatrice. Morbid thought, I know, but better to keep Beatrice happy with what we know of miracles. And if all else fails, Edward has his "get out of jail free" card that Bernkastel so graciously provided.
>>483 A while back, we had a heated discussion with Beatrice about this. It seems that being unsatisfied with one's human life is a necessary ingredient to becoming a witch. Since becoming our slave and pregnant, Elizabeth seems to be satisfied with her life. So she's no longer a candidate according to Beatrice.
Ironically, at this point Margaret would probably be a better witch candidate, but HAHAAAA no way can we let that happen- nor would Beatrice or Tharja want that, I don't think.
At this point, the twins themselves aren't likely to be witches, but the curious thing is if it would be worth hiding Margaret (or what's left of her) in Beatrice's tower to be used as a sacrifice later (either if the situation with Elizabeth changes or one of the two births a daughter) At this point, though, might be better just to move on from this crazy situation
>>488 I vote move on. Unless something happens to force his hand, Ed's not gonna let Elizabeth or her child(ren) lead unhappy lives, we did kinda promise Ricardo to disappear Margaret's child off into the Church, and Margaret herself deserves the axe.
Oh. Sorry, this was a delay I knew there'd be a delay. IK and WoF will return after Sunday. Apologies for not saying it sooner.
Wew. That one closed fast. Glad I decided to respond from my phone this morning instead of waiting til I got home.
I kind of feel like anons getting a chance to romance Beatrice again is BS because it was closed back earlier in the quest. Posters chose the cowardly path and now they're getting rewarded for it...
>>558 Not anon and I am pleased to get another chance at romancing Beatrice. Don't remember how I voted on that one, but I've been pretty consistent in my desire to waifu-up Beatrice. People fuck up and make bad choices. Forgiveness and second chances are still within the realm of possibility.
Yeah, I'm here. I finally didn't get attacked by malware on arrival. (Thank gods for good defense software or this laptop would be dead several times over.) Not sure how often I'll be around, or if I'll get this place figured out, but hey, I'm not dead, at least. Hope y'all have been okay.
>>560 Going back through the thread and chat thread, people were very much like "we have no agency, we shouldn't try to get agency, if anyone likes us we should use up every bit of friendship capital we have with them to suck up to the forces that want to do us in." I don't think we were punished enough for that kind of cowardice.
The next update for Elizabeth will take a few days. It has been a while and I want to make it memorable for this character.
>>565 Thanks for the heads up. Looking forward to it! >>564 Could you elaborate a bit more on this? I don't know if I agree, but I'd like to hear more. Some examples might help.
>>566 Basically, anons played our hero as a coward; instead of standing up for Beatrice against the discrimination she might be subjected to, *as a noble/king* who should have used what authority he had to defend the people who are good to him. Anons were too much in the "don't rock the boat and be a good boi" mode. You can't really love anyone if you're too brave to move beyond that. Thematically, in order for Edward to be worthy of Beatrice's love he has to acknowledge how he fucked up and grow past it.
>>597 Meant to say "you can't really love anyone if you're too cowardly to move beyond that."
>>597 That's certainly one possible motivation for that vote, though it wasn't mine. I was more of the mindset to protect the human from the witch.
I'm sorry for updating WoF first, when I'm sure everyone is awaiting IK with bated breath, but I am still working up the energy to write the sex part of IK and thought it better I not neglect the plot-relevant point WoF is at, for the moment. At any rate, ideally, regular updates will return soon. Incidentally, I try not to get involved in the chat thread overmuch because you all deserve a space to talk and vent. However I do think that the given 'energy' at the time was less cowardice for Edward and more wanting to spare his soldiers. He was in a position he could not do both. I do not ever think I give Edward options to be cowardly. Cautious, of course. Hesitant to stick his hand in a wasp nest, yes. But not cowardly. I know people have their own definitions and hindsight is seemingly different, but there are plenty of inner moments Edward remarks to himself how he would feel about doing something "craven" and shunning it utterly. I don't know if that's worth anything, but every choice mattered on some level. Things just turn out how they turn out. I hope it's enjoyable.
Hello everyone. I just want to reassure everyone I have not disappeared. I am simply dealing with situations in my daily life that prevent me from writing at full capacity. And especially when it comes to the sex scenes I need full attention to write them to make them good. Apologies for the delays. The situation will soon change and updates will come more steady again. I hope it will be enjoyable.
>>905 Take it easy Aristo. As an avid roleplayer, I can identify. Besides, it's the busiest time of year for most people, so we (or at least I) expect this sort of slowdown. Take care of yourself first, good sir. Also, a Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you and all my fellow players! :D
>>905 I concur with Shadow. Take your time, deal with what needs your attention. We'll be ready for your return when you're good to go again.
>>905 I had the itch to poke you, decided it wasn't my place to do, and figured you would reappear when you were ready. And here you are. Looking forward to the update, but life always comes first.
Sorry for the wait. The next update will come before the new year.
Glad to see you back, Aristo, and happy new year!
Since reading this morning's update I've been thinking about Sully (so if you haven't read that yet, go do that then come back). Honestly, I feel like our poor soldier has kinda borne the brunt of our ambition. Not that we meant to harm her or she regrets it, but having to leave her guard job and being left an unwed peasant mother-to-be, plus the lingering effects of her injury, can't be easy for her. In short, I really feel like we need to think about what we can do for her. I've had a couple thoughts on that. One, we could find her a suitable position of employment in the castle. We'd want to make sure it was something that suited her skills and would make her reasonably content, of course. Second, we could consider arranging a marriage for her. This would probably mean losing her as a lover, but depending on who she wed, she could still stay in our life as a friend and baby mama. Third one might be too modern/controversial for the setting, but when she became a guard, Sully legally gave up her femininity and became a man. Men can hold titles and land. Could we knight her? Make her a low-ranking noble in recognition of her efforts? Spin that the right way and it would inspire the guards.
>>951 Giving her titles off the bat would set off too many alarms with the nobles already in possession of the lands there. Not to mention how this could be seen by the guards as a pity ladder. At worst, she'd be easily an assassination target by Edward's hidden enemies still living within the country for simply being lowdown. Certainly not the kind of ending we'd give want to give her. I think giving her a suitable position in the castle would be far more logical in this regard, but as to what that role is - I've yet to think of something. In any case, if we're really serious on keeping Sully, we can still find a way to retain her within the castle still.
>>952 >I think giving her a suitable position in the castle would be far more logical in this regard Personal bodyguard, maybe?
>>955 I actually had the thought of naming her Tharja's bodyguard, since it's not like she's actually going to NEED one.
I'm very sorry about the long delays between updates. A month delay is simply unacceptable. But I promise we're in the "home stretch" as it is, and I anticipate a regular schedule starting again after this scene. In the meantime, I am trying to use a "just post something once a day" to get myself back into that feeling. Apologies if the latest choice seems weak.
>>1322 Thanks for making the effort to get the story back on track,aristo. I always miss it when it's gone. It's good to have you back.
>>1322 We've all had our dry spells of muse, Aristo. No worries.
>>1322 Fret not, bud. We're glad you're back, but I think I speak for all of us when I say we want you to enjoy this too. If you needed a break, you needed a break. No harm in it.
Sorry for the miss. Yesterday and today. I will return tomorrow. This will end and then we will continue. I hope it's enjoyable.
Hello everyone. We will probably have a few more updates of afterplay with Robin and then denouement. But I can finally say that the very long sex scenes one-by-one of the named characters who are pregnant is now over. (Most of them, at least.) I want to say, even if we've been doing this for six years, I'm still finding out "what works" and "what doesn't work." Writing so many individualized sex scenes one after the other did not work. Sex scenes are special, but all together, it became very hard to write. This is probably indicated by the long lengths between them and the fact I split up Robin's into so many updates just to keep momentum. I will be direct. I will never write sex scenes like this in detail all at once between several main characters ever again. It was too much work and significantly stalled the story. I will instead try to "stop-gap" sex scenes between major characters, and if Edward really has an 'orgy' with non-named characters I will likely only write brief details that keep it "short, but sweet." (Of course sex sessions with several character who can be treated as one sex scene, like Edward having sex with both Tharja and Beatrice and focusing on both, are still possible and very fair game. I only mean sex scenes where the focus was on a character, it completely stopped, then it moved to another one.) That all said, I am curious. Did these scenes pay off? Did anyone have a favorite? Please let me know if you are comfortable saying. Of course it's fine to not say anything. I hope the transition back to the normal story of Impregnator Kings goes smoothly. And that it remains enjoyable.
>>1434 Well, I'd still give you my heartfelt thanks for even attempting scenes of these scale. The fact you're handling this all by yourself is a testament to your writing ability and dedication. That being said, here my own personal thoughts and opinion: 1. Reading these character distinct lovemaking scenes were a guilty pleasure that I check on this page daily to see if there was an update. The expectant characters were genuine in terms of how they each reached to Edward's advances, so personally, it was all fresh for me. 2. My top three favorite scenes would probably be Elizabeth, Noi, and Robin. Elizabeth due to the emphasis of her advanced belly on her thin frame combined with her proud affirmation of heing a mother, while her current state hinting at birth close at hand. Noi with the appeal of a well-built body suitable for the purpose of having babies with robust and excellent physical traits(not to mention all that mass breeding talk of making an army). Robin's my dark horse of a favorite character, as her pregnant build and current role in the story brings the perfect balance of story and smut for me personally. Her position as General and how she manages her troops is very interesting to me story-wise. I'm heavily biased towards petite pregnancies(as that often translate to another set of my birth kinks down the road), and so she easily takes that spot for me. Not to mention, her personality as a hardened yet soft tactician I do not seem to tire of. 3. Now regarding updates, I actually don't mind longer waiting times if it means getting a bigger update to read.So, just letting you know if we ever switch to that format, that I'm alright with it. That being said, thank you again for remaining true to this for us small folk here.
>>1434 For what it's worth, you did an admirable job with the marathon scenes there, even if you took longer than you wanted between some posts. I appreciate what you did, but also totally respect you swearing off doing it again. That was a lot to handle, to be sure. I definitely enjoyed the scenes, though. I'll come back and give an opinion on which ones I liked best when I have time to read over the lot all at once. I do dearly hope this isn't Sully's last scene, and I'm going to work to find some way to get her back into the castle. As for rate of updates, I kinda agree with Maxi. Coming to the board and seeing an update every day is nice, sure, but if you decide a scene needs an extra day or two 'in the oven', by all means do so. Lord knows you don't need to apologize for missing a day. I know you always focus on this being a collaborative project, but you're shouldering the lion's share of the work here. Take the time you need to work your magic. We want YOU to enjoy this too!
>>1434 I will add my agreement with the words of the others, better written than I could come up with. I enjoyed this group scene, but I also respect your decision to not do so again. I've done something similar with roleplay, and I can confirm it is taxing. If I had to pick a favorite, I'd say it was Noi. As for updates, by all means, keep pacing yourself. You've lasted this long (six years, holy carp!) by pacing yourself well, and you have proven that you keep your word and keep coming back. I hope to continue enjoying your writing for some time to come!
Hello everyone. I want to pose a question to you all. You know there's a "mechanics" where it's not really a "mechanic" and more of a "situation" that develops in Impregnator Kings that was unexpected. Where Edward develops a mutual love and understand with another woman. So far, it's happened with Tharja and Mania, and after deliberate votes. But, of course, I've heard a lot that people want to 'romance' Beatrice. And that it has been a goal they hoped they could reach. At the same time, I had to privately keep quiet, because I knew a much earlier decision had made Beatrice close her heart off to him. Meaning, she would never become a 'love' interest in the sense he had become with Tharja and Mania, but remain a character that shared a different dynamic with Edward. And, I offered a 'rewind' for that eventually with Edward able to mend the wound and have a second chance. But I'm wondering, should I do this for every significant female character? I know there must be favorites more than not. So far, the only time I really "warn" for choices is when I know a GAME OVER will result from them. But would people also appreciate a "(this choice will close this character off from loving Edward)" notification? I'm not sure if this would be good or bad. It might be just extraneous or superfluous or provoke bad will between people who like one character and others who hate her. Or bad will toward me that one choice seems very logical and in Edward's interests, but if chosen it will make their favorite character 'unattainable'. And it might be revealing too much about the character before I've given in game hints about what the character is like and that Edward could perceive or anticipate. So that's why I'm putting forth the question. How much do people like the "love" mechanic, as it is, and would ideally want it to be open to most all girls? For the purpose of getting their favorite girl, or as many as they can? Feel free to write an answer in your own words, or base it off one of the following: 1. I like that Edward fell in love with Tharja and Mania and am definitely hoping he'll attain mutual love with another woman. 2. Same as 1, but only Beatrice. 3. Same as 1, but with a favorite who isn't Beatrice so I'd rather such a mechanic be applied equally to everyone. (Or a favorite in addition to Beatrice.) 4. Regardless what I think, the idea is bad for anticipated reasons. 5. I don't really care about or think about the 'love' mechanic and would rather just take the story organically, except for the GAME OVERs, but I'll still vote if a "Does Edward love X" choice presents itself.
>>1480 This is a tough one. On the one hand, you're absolutely right that flagging choices as "this will lock them out of a mutual love option" will chance spoiling things in the story or spoil a choice one way or another based on how readers feel about a given character. On the other, finding out down the road that a seemingly innocuous choice you voted and even lobbied for ended up locking out a route you would have wanted or even sets the story down a path you don't like sucks. So I don't really have an answer yet. I think it'll require a careful hand, to be sure, and more than a few judgment calls on your part. Personally, I was happy when Tharja was the only woman Ed truly loved, so I'd just as soon stay where we are. I don't think him having any more "true loves" would improve the story for me, but I can't say for sure.
>>1480 I love open-paneled discussion like this. Looking back, I wasn't really expecting Mania's introduction as a character to have significant impact to Edward but I do think her 'true love' factor(and correct me if I'm wrong) might have something to do with the situation that there weren't any 'known' pregnant main characters at that time. Personally, as a reader I was just starved and Mania's appearance couldn't have been more warranted or well placed. But that was an exception. Now, with more opportunities to interact with other characters with a higher storyline ceiling potential, it's increasingly hard for Mania to compete for Edward's true love title and to maintain that same connection before the long slumber. At least for me personally, both interest-wise and attention-wise. We can still proceed with these 'logical' true loves based on how the community has steered Edward so far, but at some point - we would all have to come together and be transparent with our preferences/tastes and see how much of them are mutual with each other(I think we are technically small enough to do that?). Aristo can use these 'best girl' rankings as a potential guideline or current trend of the community(top 3/top 5/ or whatever metric), and if the story happens to steer us straight for those female characters, then that true love pathway is valid and therefore, logical to pursue. As for the other female characters that didn't exactly make the cut but still garnered some minority votes, I do think a shorter but sweet version of the 'Daniella Dreamworld but more on the preg side' might just work. Show a brief glimpse of what that reality would be had Edward made this female character his true love/s. This way, that alternate reality gets an 'honorable' mention of sorts without completely brushing aside the people who are interested in seeing that minor character get that kind of attention.
>>1480 I'm torn. I would totally enjoy having a true harem, but it HAS to make sense story wise. I would never vote for a choice SOLELY because it would keep a potential love option open, but I do appreciate knowing that a route has closed. So..... I guess I'd fall into option 5? Or 3?
>>1480 I'm somewhere between 2 and 5. I wouldn't mind romancing Beatrice, but I'd rather it happen organically. The same going for the rest of the women we interact with. Personally, I don't like the idea of making it more of a mechanic, because then it risks the game becoming more about the mechanics than the story. More about "gotta catch 'em all" than telling a good story. And I don't think we should know that a route has been closed to us, because then any regret we feel would instill more fear of missing out on future romances, or attempts to correct a perceived mistake. >>1482 I agree with BD that having more loves wouldn't add more to the story. If anything I think it makes the relationships feel less convincing.
>>1486 Yes. It's fair to say a number of women are infatuated with Edward, but it only applies to true love with Tharja and Mania. In Tharja's case, it was Edward consistently and honestly reciprocating her feelings and she learned very quickly to love who he was beyond who she imagined him to be. Edward responded in kind, for similar reasons. With Mania, they both did things for each other that neither of them thought were possible. Edward got Mania to open up about her past and remember her old life and deal with the emotion over the injustice she felt, as well as validate her by agreeing to remove the stakes and otherwise be a Good King. Meanwhile, Mania got Edward to open up about his family and discover something about himself he was in denial about. They both became very important to each other, beyond Mania having a body that was pregnant for Edward to stroke. I think the main reason that point was reached was because you all voted for outcomes that prompted it. It's possible Mania might not even be in the story anymore if certain choices weren't made. Or that Edward would only know her as "That 'witch' I helped who's in the village now." And certainly Tharja's relationship with Edward changed everything dramatically from the very beginning. When looked at in that perspective, which characters seem on the cusp of being able to reach that mutual love with Edward? Which feel closed off because they haven't exposed that side of themselves? Which could go either way? In that case, it's a bit easier to understand. But, I think the best answer is to leave it unsaid, because then it basically turns into two separate "Does Edward Love X?" polls.
>>1480 Option 5. I've given it some more thought, and I stand by everything I said before. I'll vote in those polls, but unless I feel it makes real narrative sense, I'll probably vote against more "true loves". Ed's obviously fond of every woman who's carrying his child. There's a sort of love there for all of them. But capital-L, kill for you die for you do anything in the world for you Love? That's going to take a lot for me to back. I think it's best to avoid making it a mechanical thing. That's getting too close to just marking every option about a girl [Robin Route] or [Beatrice Route], and that's a bit too game-ist for a narrative story. As to (what I think are) your questions about where characters stand in your last post, after you gave us the Beatrice redo I think the only girl I'd say is really closed off (not irreversibly, but just my read on her interactions) is Elizabeth. Her dynamic with Ed and with Tharja just precludes that in my mind. The Chrisania siblings, with the possible exception of Robin, would need a lot of work to get there. Course, I think that's a lot of the girls. Could we possibly get most any of the girls to that point? Sure, I think so, with enough work. But I don't think that would be in service to Edward's own growth and narrative.
Sorry about forgetting to have a 'closer' tally, but everyone voted unanimously so I took it for granted. Apologies.
Furthermore, clearly that was a typo and the line should've read "succeeded with the former."
>that bit about assured excommunication Yeah, but who would ever declare openly against the church like tha- >Edelgard ...crap. Also, assuming it isn't what Ed just remembered, if we have time we might hypothetically float our idea of bringing our brother in, just see what Corrin thinks.
>>1678 Unless Albert is like Ricardo, we risk an aweful lot bringing him to Ruhemania (or Elbania). His children will be in the line of succession. If he is like Ricardo, this would be perfect, because we could marry him off to Beatrice, Robin, Cordelia or some other noble women Ed has knocked up - or even suggest him as an alibi husband to Edelgard if we manage to knock her up - and thereby make sure that only Edward's children will be on the throne, even if something were to happen to Tharja and her children. But when has anything ever been this perfect for Edward? If Albert has any kind of ambition himself, bringing him in is dangerous. I'd rather have him stay in Virilia as Edward's gouverneur. He can rule the dukedom he never thought he'd get his brother's name, making sure the taxes are paid on time etc. It could be a nice (albeit small, most of the tax income will have to be reinvested back into Virilia itself) secondary stream of income and it keeps Albert far away.
Sorry for the period of time with no updates. Am going to attempt to change that over the weekend.
Question for the group: How serious are we about opening relations to Elbania forcefully if needed? Because if we are, then I say we need to talk to Camilla and Cordelia about the topic as well. There was this line a while back that the four siblings can achieve anything if they work together. It may have been more poetic than prophetic, but maybe there is something to it. A war is costly and even the best strategy will only lead to a phyrric victory if it bankrupts us or completely prevents profitable trade after the war. Camilla needs to be part of any plans. And Cordelia will of course be crucial because we'll need cavalry. On the question of diplomacy I had an idea the other day: While we decided against meeting at the monastery, meeting under the eyes of the church may be beneficial. The advantage of the monastery was the neutral ground, while her coming to Ruhemania or Edward going to Elbania carries the risk of being detained and leaving the home country without its ruler. I think it would be wise to bring a bit of "neutral territory" with us, i.e. a representative of the church. Let's take Kiara (and Father Thomas if we have to) with us to Elbania. If nothing else Kiara can help us overcome our disappointment on the trip back should we fail charm Edelgard ;-)
>>1839 I personally would rather avoid war, though if it comes to it, there is wisdom in what you suggest. As for taking a church rep with us, that actually sounds like a pretty good idea.
>>1851 Agreed on avoiding war if possible. As for church representation, we'll probably want to discuss this with Tomas, find out what he knows about Elbania and its relation with the church. It could be a risk, especially if Edelgard here is anything like her source material.
Return coming soon.
Hello everyone. I'm very interested in knowing if the latest scene "hit the spot" as it were. Please feel free to be honest. I try to keep each scene freash, and sometimes that means dipping a toe in a variation of another fetish. But whether you particularly like this one or not, I tried to give it universal appeal. Proper updates with choices will return soon. I hope it's enjoyable. On a side note, I tried opening up the entire story to review, and it was daunting! So much it crashes browsers. It's amazing to see how much we've written together over the years. The direction Edward's journey has taken him. We'll see more of it soon, with promises coming and new surprises. Next I believe is the arrival of Erika and eventually the bank that loaned Virilia money. The execution of Oana will also need to be dealt with. As well as Edward's relationships to the nuns. And eventually the journey to Elbania. Just organizing my thoughts as we go on in case I forget.
I can't speak for anyone else, but I thought this update was great. It's honestly impressive that things are still this fresh after years of the quest, and I can't wait to see what else you come up with in scenes like this. Venti's going to be in my top three at this rate, lol.
IK is really the only reason to check in on this shitshow of a site anymore.
I found this story while looking for some quick stuff to get off to sometimes early this year and ended up way too invested in the story. My comment is: holyshit this has been going for nearly 8 years? I've reached the beginning of thread 15 so I can't really participate in discussions yet but what I want to say this thank you Aristo for this unexpectedly great story.
>>1974 Thank you very much. This is the exact sort of thing I wonder if it ever happens, and I love hearing it does. It's thanks to the internet archive we're able to maintain a record like this. Please, when you feel like using your one vote and contributing to the discussion, I urge you to do so. It's because of listening to audience wants that the story has been able to take on the life it has. (For example: Mania came into existence as a character because of a request in the chat thread.)
Hello, everyone. Well, there it is. A line has been crossed. I found an AI art site and used it for the latest update reference picture. Reactions? Are people glad I can give them more reference images? Angry for using AI art at all? Don't care? As much as I'd like to have an artist who could draw every scene, that would never realistically happen. But I could use AI for IK. Even for little "nothing" updates like this one. I could possibly even create original character art this way and not rely on fanart of existing characters. That, if nothing else, could work better for putting a face on Edwys, for example. (I specifically avoid giving Edward a face because men don't get portraits in IK, and I'd like to think everyone has some freedom to self-insert themselves.) Anyway, I know AI art is controversial. I'd appreciate knowing everyone's thoughts.
>>2026 > Are people glad I can give them more reference images? Yes. Very much. I was actually hoping for that for a few months now while I've been watching AI-image generation get better and better even for very specific scenarios. > Angry for using AI art at all? Don't care? Don't care. I recognized it as probably AI-generated right away, but in my book that's in the same category as "well this artist has a certain style how they draw faces" I like the flexibility that AI-generated images give and would very much like more images. Especially for the sex-scenes with our pregnant ladies. > Anyway, I know AI art is controversial. I'd appreciate knowing everyone's thoughts. I fully understand the controversy around not paying the original human artists that this brings with it. I am sympathetic with it. I fully support paying artists their fair share. I just don't think that not using AI-image generation is the right conclusion to draw from that. It is too amazing a tool for that.
>>2026 I'm not wild about AI images, but it's not a deal breaker either. If this was a new quest I'd probably be a good deal more wary of it, but over the years you've proven your dedication to this, so I feel like I can trust you to use these images without getting crazy or sloppy. Hopefully we don't end up with any thirteen finger abominations turning up, lol.
To an extent, I can totally understand using AI if a good existing image doesn't already exist (if I had any idea how to make decent use of it, I wouldn't have to resort to the ever-congested drawthread to try to get anything for my OCs, or at the very least I'd have something to use as an example image instead of trying to piece random things together). As long as it isn't actually hurting anyone and the art looks decent enough, don't care.
>>2026 I’m not super enthused about AI art and would prefer traditional art to look at with every update. I would be against the use of AI art if this was an art based cyoa. But since this cyoa is text based and the art is only supplemental to the story, AI art is fine if used sparingly. Like how others in this thread have already expressed, I trust you enough to defer to your judgement when to use and when not to use AI art for each update.
I'm not particularly phased by AI art. Conceptually, I don't like it. Especially for commercial use. But in regards to its use here in the story... I find it innocuous. I even like having art for scenes that wouldn't normally have them. I would obviously abide the majority here, but it just doesn't feel that transgressive to me.
>>2028 Follow-up on my post here: I'd still rather see human-made art over AI when possible, but when the AI can provide an image that an artist hasn't made yet, that's fine by me.
Putting aside the controversy of how the AI was trained, I'm okay with it. Not thrilled- AI art looks pretty samey to me- but I respect the fact that you want to add more to your posts without scrolling through pages upon pages of images to find what you want. I agree that I'd rather see human art over AI, but for the sake of your sanity and all the work you put into this story, I'm okay with it.
AI art is nothing but bigoted art theft. I don't like any aspect of it, particularly since I want to be a writer and writers are already being stolen from. But it's not as if we can stop you.
All right. An informal summation is that a few people are just grateful for me to have images to work with. A few don't care. A few think it's bad but are okay if I use it because IK has been going on so long and it's clear I don't try to pass it off as "my own." And a few categorically hate it. This sort of poll is definitely not a "majority rules" situation but a "what answer can satisfy with a compromise?" So, here's my situation and my idea: 1. I was playing with the idea of using AI art for every little scene, even if it was 'meet X person in hallway', because then I could match emotions to faces too, but I think this is overkill. So, no to that. 2. If a character is popular (that is, not necessarily popular in IK, but popular universally and gets a lot of fanart), and it's easy to find art, I will use that. Unless it's to show them at a certain stage of pregnancy I just can't find. 3. If a character I chose to depict in the story is just so niche I can barely find art of them, I will use AI to fill the gap. This happens a lot because when I am writing and looking for art to use, I think of good characters to fit the 'feeling' I want the character in the story to evoke. I don't really worry about whether they actually have a ton of art to work with. I'm pretty sure there's not one image of Beatrice done pregnant. Noi also would be rare. Rosette will also fit this if she is ever successfully pursued. Finally there's Venti, who is just a rare case because there isn't a lot of gender-change art for her. So, right now, we will def. see Venti's model again because that's just too convenient, especially when she gets pregnant. Models for Beatrice, Rosette, and Noi may pop up too. But, I will try to use non-AI art as I can. This is never a "I don't want to sift through images," situation. I never mind doing that. This is more of a "I've sifted through everything and there's not even one morsel" situation. I still would rather use traditional art, so I will go with that if I can find it.
>>2037 Probably the best approach. And I respect you soliciting our opinions rather than just making the call yourself. It is seen and appreciated.
>>2037 >>2038 I agree with BD, and I sympathize with searching for something so long and coming up with nothing. Thanks again for including us as part of the process.
This is doable. Thank you.
The recent scare reminded me how special the story (and the site hosting it) really is. "Famous last words," but I'm going to try to come back to more regular updates.
>>2090 Whatever you can do, we appreciate.
>>2090 Hell yeah my dude. I'm sure I'm not the only one with everything backed up as text in case of total site fubar. This is something truly irreplaceable.
Thank you so much. Obviously "regular updates" became a little lax, but it's wonderful to hear people are invested in the story enough to want to preserve it. I can also be reached at aristocrat-mae on DA if necessary, for those who didn't know.
I just want to take a quick informal poll. This is not to continue the arguments in the thread since the vote has been called. But, I had previously explained circumstances in which Edward could experience a love confession, and asked openly if anyone could think of a character that would do so. Did anyone anticipate this meeting with Noi building to the current love choice vote? Just to wonder. At any rate, thank you all for voting. That was wonderful to see so many participants voting. And also to see the pendulum swing, which is always very fascinating to see when it does happen. At any rate, the story will continue with its next update soon. I hope it's enjoyable.
>>2195 A response to this, and a couple final thoughts on the romance votes- not trying to necessarily continue any arguments, just getting words on paper as it were. I'll probably come back and revise this as I think on it more, but wanted to get it out before I leave for work. First, to answer your question, aristo: No, didn't see this coming at all. Noi was not on my radar for a potential confession. Also didn't expect the vote to go that way, just didn't personally see enough development between Ed and Noi to justify it on his part- could see it eventually getting there, maybe, but that's not the way this game plays, what with it being a yes/no forever kind of deal. Second, to respond to Murble's last post before the vote was closed: you make an excellent argument for why Noi loves Ed, and I totally get that. I just don't agree with your conclusion that it means Ed should love Noi. You absolutely hit the nail on the head for my reasoning for voting against this: it's denying Ed his own agency in favor of avoiding a worst case scenario for Noi that I don't think would have happened even if we'd said we don't love her. Like, the argument of "we should love Noi because she's had a bad life up til now and if we don't, the only other option is letting Robin have her way with her as breeding stock" just doesn't hold water for me. Finally, a more general thought on the romance choices we've had so far and ones I anticipate in the future: not to sound alarmist or paranoid, but I have to wonder, assuming voting trends continue and love confessions continue to be accepted, if we don't end up tying ourselves up in knots of having our decisions made for us or being caught in impossible dilemmas. We already had one minor instance where we weren't able to respond the way some of us would have wanted to in the council meeting because of the Mania choice, and while I don't really foresee any huge issues stemming from either of our current love mistresses, the more of these we take on, the more obligations we're assuming and the more choices we're going to have locked in or locked out based on that. To be clear, I'm not arguing against there being future love confessions, nor am I arguing that all votes on future love confessions should be 'no'- hell, there's a couple girls I'd vote yes on for sure. I'm just pointing out a potential future issue. Just my two cents, feel free to ignore.
>>2198 >>2195 I also didn't see the Noi confession coming, and I share in BD's concerns. While it's nice to try and love everyone, it doesn't feel practical or realistic to me. Yes, I know, it's a fantasy, put realism aside, but for me, it stretches my immersion/suspension of disbelief. I wouldn't be surprised if Edward had received similar confessions back in Virillia and turned them down back then because he had to. He doesn't have to now, but I imagine it's something he's capable of doing. I don't want us to become people-pleasers at the cost of our agency.
Thank you very much for the feed back. Noi's confession I tried to allude to with his post. >>1488 Noi had opened up about her past, Edward validated her as a human being by rushing up on the stage for her, and she repaid it by in her heart of hearts, knowing there was a limit to who Edward would take to bed when everyone was assuming the opposite. (About Margaret.) Edward himself did show a little bit of his vulnerable side to Noi as well, but not as much as Mania. Or even Tharja, at that point. To answer the point of why Edward hasn't fallen in love before at Virilia, I think the best explanation is he didn't have time. (He was 'busy' impregnating a lot of women. Including the matchmaker, who was the last woman he met.) That, and any woman who was confessing their love to him were probably doing it for the wrong reasons. Go all the way back to when Edward has first had sex with Elizabeth. She's soon asking him "When will we be married?" and "What if Tharja dies, then can we be married?" That is, girls who (for different reasons) may have thought sleeping with Edward automatically meant they'd get to be aristocrats, too. Or that the sex meant being married was a formality. Or, any other reason. Keep in mind too that an Edward in Virilia had probably never experienced real hardship. The journey to Ruhemania was easily the most trouble he ever had to deal with at that point in his life. Especially being marched around with the mercenaries. It gave him the chance to pause, and realize being there, with Tharja, had meaning. Incidentally, BD, I'm not sure which choice you're referring to. The only thing regarding the council meeting was that Edward invited Mania to sit on it automatically. The actual suggestions she made were not automatically decided. (And the others more or less accepted her legitimacy as an advisor after a few rounds where she was allowed to speak.) At any rate, update coming soon.
>>2285 I must be misremembering, then.
Hello everyone. If you can believe it, we passed the eighth year anniversary of the start of Impregnator Kings. It's been a wild ride and I'm happy to have been writing it with you. We were only a few days and eight years from picking Tharja as the bride, all the way back in Virilia, thread #1! Which is why I want to make a... prediction. I hesitate to call it an announcement. I've done some internal math, evaluation, and I predict that, barring myself having a slump that leads to me simply spacing updates out too far, or unplanned for shenanigans emerging, we may in fact finish Tharja's story by the end of this year. This means a complete telling of Edward's story with Tharja. From Virilia to Edward's actual passing. Possibly. But, that will not be the end of Impregnator Kings. I fully intend to come back and write the New Game+, if others are willing to come along with me. It will depend on you, the audience. The story would die without readers and votes. (Apologies also for so many 'no vote' updates recently. That will change soon as we get back to plot choices and not sex choices.) I also want to stress that the one-year prediction means it might not be true if the story goes off on a direction I simply didn't anticipate. This is a good thing. You have taken this story places I would never have been able to take it on its own, and the story has been better for it. Please, do not at all take this to mean I want lower engagement or less write-ins. At any rate, it is my new year's resolution to come back to this faster. To give Impregnator Kings more 'love'. I can only hope you're here with me. I hope it's enjoyable. PS: Oh, one last note. Before the New Game+, I'll have a session where everyone can ask "what would have happened if X choice had been made?" I'm curious if anyone's interested. But, I know what would've happened and I'm keeping it a secret until there's no reason to do so anymore.
>>2623 While I haven't participated in the game, I as a writer do want to give congratulations where it's due and say that's really something to be proud of, that you could keep a story going that long (even with breaks interspersed) and you're still enjoying it, as are its fans.
>>2623 It was a wild ride, wasn't it? I'll be reading along. If it takes one year or another eight. Thank you for all your hard work and Merry Christmas, aristo.
>>2623 First: Holy crap, it's been eight years? Wow. Most shows don't last that long. So much has happened in that time. But my appreciation to you and to all the readers/players that have stuck around that long. Second: Wow again! I didn't think we were closing in on a conclusion. It'll be very interesting to see how things play out over the next year. And I'm very glad to hear you still intend to proceed with NG+. Finally: Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to you all!
>>2623 I have to echo Shadow in surprise at the year prediction. Feels like there's a lot to do in the next twelve months! It's a bit bittersweet to hear, honestly. The NG+ is intriguing, but knowing that it would be IK with almost none of the characters we know aside from Ed is a bit sobering. I trust you, though, and I'll stick with it and you to see what else comes. Still some threads in our Tharja run I want to see resolved, but a year should give us time to get to them. Thanks again for eight years of fun and drama, and here's to a great year nine and potential finale to this run. Happy Holidays!
>>2623 It's been that long, eh? Cheers, Aristo, and Merry Christmas!
Question, Aristo. Is the "Sully's going to be a peasant" line in the latest update intended to be the end of this line of thinking, or simply an indication that the military is a dead end for a solution and we need to consider other avenues?
>>2647 I'm not sure what you mean by "solution". What is the problem?
>>2648 Apologies, should have been clearer. I was typing that up on my phone this morning. I see Sully's current situation (potentially brain damaged and having no role in the castle) as a problem that I'd like Ed to solve. I wanted to bring her up to Robin to see if the general had any thoughts, and I'm still hoping to find some way for her to stay part of Ed's life- some other role in the castle. So I was wondering if that line from Ed about Sully being a peasant was indicative that Edward is resigned to her leaving the castle, or if there was still room for us to pursue other options.
>>2649 Should have reread this before I hit reply. To be clear, the thing I want to help her with is finding her something to do that isn't "leave the castle forever", not the traumatic brain injury.
>>2650 She hasn't left the castle forever. She's just in the peasant settlement. Tharja (who has their relationship) or possibly Mania (who lives with the peasants) could reasonably go get her for Edward. Edward could even just walk in, if he really wanted to. Though, that would either make a big scene, or he'd need a disguise. But, apologies for Sully fans and those who got attached to her, but given the events and her background, it just doesn't make sense in the context of the story to alter her role back to something Edward would encounter every day. (She's not an aristocrat, she has no special skill, she's not even literate, etc.) I hesitate to ever say "that won't work," but life went on for all of the people inside of the castle while Edward was in his recovery. With how Sully was, it's the logical way it turned out. Though like all girls, there'll be ways to meet her through choices, but for a character like Sully who're relatively removed from being important to Edward and his day to day activities, I'd rather keep it to milestones like "everyone's nine-ten months now" or "everyone's giving birth" or "Edward has the opportunity to impregnate them again."
>>2652 I understand where you're coming from, but that's rather disappointing.
>>2654 I'm really sorry about this. I don't want to say "there's certain characters who are meant to be side characters, at best," because sometimes I'm absolutely shocked at where they go. Mania, for example, turned from a character who was introduced because there was a request for a character who was already showing and late into her pregnancy into a full main character, with a purpose. But characters for example like "the woman pirate girl from Edward's dream sequence back in thread #1," well, there was no bringing her back. (As a side note, any character Edward grows to love is going to become a 'main' character, if she's not already. Perhaps that wasn't clear. At the very least, that's why Noi is suddenly being promoted to a position she has good reason to be in Edward's presence. One which also makes sense within the context of the story, plot, and characters.) But, if I could ask, and I mean this with respect, but why did Sully become liked? As I say, you all write the story with me, and no matter how many years pass by or even if it's the same story, we're always learning, but sometimes it's hard to predict audience expectations. Was it her circumstance? A specific scene? The first impression? A certain character characteristic that was appealing? Or... did it come down to I used a popular fire emblem character as the "avatar," so to speak? (I said this back in our first chat thread, but when choosing 'avatars,' I try to make the character somewhat suitable for what I'm going for. As well as have some pregnancy artwork around them. But at the same time, they have their own separate personalities, backstories, etc. that will not 'mesh'. Elizabeth and Margaret are less persona characters and more "sisters Maid1 and Maid2," for example, as strange as that would be to say.) At any rate, thank you for the feedback. I always appreciate it. I hope this update schedule will continue. I'm attempting to have one at least once a day again, even if it's only a few sentences. I hope it's enjoyable.
>>2660 I can only speak for myself, of course, but I've been fond of Sully for quite some time. She's been in the story for longer than most of the women Edward has needed, and she was a friendly face in the castle when we didn't have many of those- one of the closest Ed had to a friend for awhile, aside from Ricardo and Tharja (and maybe Elizabeth, though the power dynamics and subservience on her part change that a bit). Full disclosure, that's said with the benefit and probably through a pair of rose-tinted nostalgia goggles. Honestly, Sully's one of the girls that would have made sense to me for Ed to fall for over the (to me) quicker and more unexpected romances with Mania and Noi. Sully started out as a mentally and emotionally strong character- headstrong, even- and I respected that. I couldn't point to an exact scene or moment where I said "ah yes, Sully good, Sully should remain important", but I like her and wish she hadn't gone by the wayside like this. I'm typing this from my phone and it's early morning here, so I imagine I'll come back to this and add more. Let me say this, though: I trust you, Aristo, and while we write it together, you do the lion's share of the work. I don't like this particular development, and I'm telling you all this because there's no way you could know my thoughts otherwise. I hope I'm not the only one who feels this way, either about Sully or about the story.
>>2661 "That's said with the benefit" of hindsight. Didn't finish that thought properly. And to better explain the "made sense" bit on the romance, just more that he spent more time with Sully, IIRC. Knew her longer than she knew Mania and Noi when the love votes came. Then again, the Tharja love vote was very early in the quest too.
May I avoid swallowing my foot while putting my two cents in, but I understand both sides. I also feel like the romances with Mania and Noi were unexpected and fast (but maybe that's because I'm not attracted to Hex Maniac or muscle women), and I liked Sully being 'one of the boys' in a few senses of that phrase. But on the other hand, it just wouldn't be practical for all of the girls to get a lot of attention all the time. We can't keep romances And spending time with women we've impregnated And looking for new women to impregnate And be a proper king. There aren't enough hours in the day. The tribe has spoken, and Ed's attention has been narrowed a little. Aristo's logic also makes sense. I'm a little bummed she won't be around as much, but we don't have a good reason to keep her around. I'm glad that we're a bunch of bleeding hearts and hopeless romantics, but our hearts go in different directions.
>>2661 ...women Edward has bedded, not needed. >>2663 It's a fair assessment. Guess I would have preferred maintaining relationships over "breed ALL the women". Part of why I was caught so off-guard by the Mania and Noi situations, I reckon. Kinda hate that a character who's been with us for so long is getting shuffled off like this, but c'est la vie.
>>2664 Well... coming back to this, the only thing I can really say is it was a strange situation. Edward did in fact have a bit of a 'friendly' relationship with Sully. But, he didn't particularly 'seduce' her. He kind of asked Tharja for 'help', so to speak. That's not to say Sully would've resisted Edward's advances if he flirted with her more, but their relationship only became a more intimate when Tharja got involved and 'initiated' her, first. Meanwhile, Tharja has only really met Mania off screen and has expressed sort of uneasiness about her. Mania's relationship with Edward developed entirely with them both finding each other, despite their differences. Similarly, his relationship with Noi started almost immediately with her giving him the chance for sex. She expected something casual, 'something just for the sake she could say she did it.' Edward made it a lot more intimate and 'special' for her. Showed he cared for her. And those moments kept piling up as much as she could be around him, too. At any rate, I am glad to hear this feedback. I can understand too how characters introduced early-story before the plot really got rolling hold a special nostalgic place, too. I'll keep this in mind. ...And also that some might not like Hex Maniac or muscle girls. I do keep in mind the audience's own kinks, when sex scenes come up. (The girls' have their own kinks too, like anyone, and going over previous scenes it'd probably be easy to write a list, but whether Edward plays to them is optional and sex scenes should always be for the sake of delivering the sex to the audience.) Also, I intend to get back to Impregnated Princess/Witch very soon. That is not forgotten, for those who enjoy it.
Apologies. "Witch of Fecundity".
>>2666 Fair cop on the seduction vs initiation bit, it's been awhile. Once we hit the end of the Tharja route and get the "behind the scenes" thread, I'd love to pick your brain about how you decide who gets to be a love interest and who doesn't, assuming it wouldn't cause issues for New Game +.
>>2666 Apparently, I'm in the minority when it comes to Hex Maniac and muscle girls. But I don't mind too much because I know it's the nature of the beast when you CYOA by committee, both in who you pick to include and who the group picks to be with. I've gotten enough time with characters I like, and the overall plot makes up for any minor shortcomings in who we spend time with.
>>2671 You're not alone. I'm not crazy about Hex either, and at best I'm neutral on muscle girls.
I am going to leave the current vote up longer and not close it tonight. Please continue to vote. I hope people are excited about the "balance of power" concept.
>>2710 It's certainly intriguing! That's actually another reason for my write-in. Not sure we need to give the military even more power in the council.
I've had some thoughts on the latest vote that I figured I'd share here rather than muddying the voting in the main thread. Specifically, on option 6 and why I'm concerned about it, and how I think the perceived benefits of that plan can be attained without following it. To start with, Tharja on the council as a shadow witch rep. My own misgivings about providing witches as a group more power in Ruhemania aside, I don't think that this is the only shot at bringing Tharja in on this role. We could bring her to other council meetings, keep encouraging her to speak up. Heck, we could even spin a rejection into an invitation. Have a private conversation with her later, apologize for not being able to use her idea, but point out that she very well could slyly represent the witches on the council- this proposal in particular didn't work out, but having someone who can first-hand discuss the needs of the coven could still be useful. Next, Oana. I said before, I'll say it again: I think she needs a public execution. She needs to pay for her crimes, which any option does resolve, but the public part is necessary to send the message that while we are a fair and good king, we do have limits. Dissuade any future conspirators. As for why not give Oana to Erika and execute Margaret instead: one of these women is of noble blood (or aristocratic or whatever- point is her family held a title in the past) if not of noble title, led the attempt to remove Ed from power, and publicly claimed responsibility for the poisoning. The other... is a maid who did actually poison us and has denied Oana's involvement in that. The execution of Oana is going to hold WAY more weight than an execution of Margaret. Which leads me to... A gift for Erika. Again, putting aside my own thoughts that we may want to reconsider giving someone to Erika (we have no idea how she'll respond or what sort of precedent that might set for her, so I want to have more discussion on that before anything's nailed down), are we sure about Oana being the best choice? Beyond the bit above about Oana being the better option for a public execution, let's consider the two candidates here. Oana's an elderly woman, while Margaret is in the prime of her life, obviously fertile, probably in better shape from having led a more active life as a maid before their imprisonment. If we're going to give a person as a gift to Erika, Margaret's the better candidate. This draws a bit on metaknowledge from the Witch game, but since Margaret will have delivered a child by that point, it even creates the possibility for Tharja and Erika to bond over working on her as a project- Tharja has always been interested in having Ed's kids, and if memory serves was using what fertility magic/potions she could find before meeting Beatrice. She might stand to benefit more from Margaret as research material too. Finally, in case it comes up: I don't think it would be wise to give Erika both women. An old woman is granted reprieve from execution only to die in captivity a few months later. Unfortunate, but understandable. A young woman who's been imprisoned for months dies in childbirth. Tragic, but that's reality. Both of those happening at once? That could raise a few eyebrows, and I don't know what conclusions some of the (quite intelligent) members of our council might draw from that. Best to execute at least one of them and give at most one to Erika. Aristo, please point out if I've misremembered something or made an incorrect leap of logic here. Lord knows I do that a lot.
>>2792 The only thing I could really add is that Tharja may be invited to council meetings, but they would need to be ones where it makes sense for her to be there. Even more so for her to speak, or else Edward won't have any of her positions to approve. Moreover, they'd have to be connected to what the witches want rather than what Tharja wants. Here what Tharja wants is specifically tied to the witch's desires instead of her personal appraisal. Having Tharja there to discuss how the conspiracy ringleader against Edward should be punished, especially when she held off punishing her while regent, made sense. Allowing her to speak made sense, but Edward could have easily told her to just observe. That's going to be a lot different than arguing over the budget. Even if Tharja's there and allowed to speak, the witches aren't likely to care about what Edward does with the budget, so she won't become a representative of the faction. Or possibly maybe they would, but Tharja wouldn't expect to be there until invited. So, all the witches may not have time to brainstorm and tell her their wants. We can't be sure until it happens. The story goes in unpredictable ways, and the current situation was the perfect storm to introduce a 'guest' right away. And even the possibility she'll become a faction leader, and of what. As to why it's being presented right now as a one-time thing, consider this explanation. By acquiescing to Tharja's proposal in the current vote, Edward is telling the Council "My wife still has some authority, even though she is no longer Regent. My power is tied to her." Ie, Tharja has Edward's ear and could possibly interfere with any policy. For the six months Edward was gone, she had that authority in Edward's name. Now, Edward has taken it back. She had no say in whether all the portraits would be removed when it was brought up in the first council, and even if she were there to argue for it, the witches probably wouldn't have cared. In this current vote, if he goes with her proposal, he's saying "She still has a little bit of my power I gave her in the regency." --Hence why the decision made in Tharja's favor will affect the Council's opinion about Monarch Authority and whether the Council feels it will be listened to. Imagine you try to persuade your boss of something, only for your boss's wife to say "That doesn't sound like the best idea." You now realize you have to persuade two of them. This can be a very good thing or a very bad thing. I've done my best to show the consequences of each choice as Edward would understand them, as well as what the other characters as advisors tell him about each one, as they understand them. That all said, this is an explanation for clarity. Not that the choice for Tharja is the best. They all have their own pros and cons and your own take is very valid. As are all of them. I look forward to seeing how the needle falls. I hope it's enjoyable.
Hello everyone. I was inspired by a dream for a new story. This one would center around the hypothetical "miracle" Sister Mania from Bernkastel's vision a few threads ago. One in which Sister Mania's relationship with her village, her convent, and the Church at large would take center place. There would likely be little or no connection to Impregnator Kings. The only problem is, strictly speaking, I'm not sure this would ever involve pregnancy content. Or be overtly sexual. I don't want to discount it entirely, but my conception would be that unlike IK and WoF, this wouldn't be a fetish story. I'd put it on my deviantart, but I still would like audience feedback and the chance to give choices. I'd struggle to get these on deviantart since it's not easy to make anonymous votes, or attract attention. Impregnator Kings and Witch of Fecundity would continue. What are people's thoughts? 1. Use /c/. It really doesn't matter with so low traffic a site, and maybe the story will eventually have sex/preg. content. (You never know.) 2. Use /b/. Then there's no real complaint and people will still vote if interested. 3. Use deviantart, sacrifice the possibility of sex scenes and easy voter access for a stable platform. 4. If it's not preg. focused, it shouldn't be on pregchan, and I'd rather see more focus on IK and WoF.
>>2847 1. Use /c/. We're here, and we're the most active folks on this board. Also convenient with everything in one place.
>>2847 I'd say you can try using /c/, but if somebody points out that it's not relevant to the board, be prepared to rehome it.
I've decided to go for it and put up the beginning of the new story. This is a bit of new territory. In IK and WoF, the main character Edward/Edwys is YOU. It's in second person so you identify with the person, somewhat. You're roleplaying what you think you think should be done, but also Edward does have his own established personality that lines up with (hopefully) something most voters approve of. Sister Mania's story is going to be a little different. This is going to be first person and settle more on the 'Bernkastel method.' That is, the existence of Sister Mania is already a 'miracle that would never happen.' Sister Mania's actions are also 'miracles' in a way. The choices are options Sister Mania would consider and act on or not. My point is to allow the voter to argue, and say where they want the direction of the story to go, but also that there is no element of them 'being' Sister Mania. There is no 'You'. It's her story, but it can go many ways depending on which direction her personality would take her in. As well as what she would consider 'good ideas'. I hope people who give a chance will find it enjoyable, in addition to IK and WoF of course.
>>2847 DevArt is fucking over its users yet again, so use /c/.
Just throwing my two cents in since the topic of Mania was brought up. I was not present when she was initially introduced, and do not know the circumstances surrounding her and Edward's meeting. But I am still sad that Edward not only fell in love with her, which I deem as cheating on his one true love Tharja, but also fell in love with a pregnant single mother. I just never took Edward to be a cuck is all. /Unpopular opinion rant over
>>3002 Edward fell in love with Mania because of her unique insights, which actually allowed him to sort out his feelings on a number of subjects. Also due to certain events, we know she's a lot smarter and sharper than she leads everyone else to believe. Also Edward isn't a cuck. Mania never really had a relationship with her child's father. She had a very casual acquantaince with him, and he was already long gone from her life before she was aware she was pregnant. If anything, Edward is stepping up to give both of them a better life (and if it means eventually putting more babies in Mania, even better).
First of all, apologies to everyone for not having a new update completed by now. However, to address this. >>3002 Mania was not a planned character to introduce. I received a request to introduce a character who was already pregnant because "the story had gone on too long without bellies" and I thought that was a pretty good point. However, Mania did have her own backstory, and Edward's choices drew it out of her. He, in return, shared his own story, and their relationship developed very fast. Indeed, when the "love" choice was presented, Edward remarked perhaps girls with mystery who were associated with 'darkness' was his type. As for being a "cuck", well, that's just not true at all. Edward has morals and he has said firmly in the past that he will not make any man a cuckold, nor force a woman who denies him Furthermore, Mania had no emotional connection to the father of her child, at least not in a romantic way. Her child comes from the fact she was allowed to sleep in a cabin during winter, on the floor, with a gathering of peasants, as the cabin was overcrowded. A young man begged her to let him know a woman's touch. She consented. She regarded it as a great act of generosity from her to him, not a union of two lovers, or even a descent into hedonism. Furthermore, she's not asking or expecting Edward to support her child. She does it herself, as well as relying on kind villagers who have accepted her. Thinking of character behavior (and this was not my intention) the closest character who may enjoy experimenting with this fetish may be Tharja herself. She finds women for Edward and actively enjoys watching them together. There are exceptions (Daniella, Mania, possibly others), but even if you want to look at her through that lens, she's acting out of generosity. Not jealousy or submission. That said, I understand that some just may not like (in a fetish way) the idea of a pregnant character not being pregnant by the main character, or any notion of dating a 'single mother', but... it's simply the necessity required when a character is introduced already pregnant. But, rather than reading this, I encourage you to read the logs and see exactly how the relationship unfolded in the story. The impact of reading a later explanation is surely less than reading the reationship developing as a result of everyone's choices. New update coming soon.
>>3005 Speaking of which, I miss Mania's romance. I really hope we spend some intimate time with her soon.
>>3005 >nor force a woman who denies him Remembering that Ed had knocked up most of the staff back in his father's residence, I snicker at the thought of him just walking along, encountering a scullery maid doing her job, mischievously lifting her skirts, and she just sighs with a "oh, why not?" attitude and lets him go at it. Presumably they didn't call him the "Mad Rutting Beast" because he wined n' dined every woman he had children with.
>>3009 >Remembering that Ed had knocked up most of the staff back in his father's residence Replace "most" with "all," and this is what happened. He was heir, impulsive, young, very attractive, and had nothing better to do. Surely there was some outside the immediate 'residency' too. Edward estimated he'd fathered 10 or 20 shy of 100 children in Virilia.
>>3051 Couldn't remember if every member of the staff was "of age" or not.
I'm very sorry I've let the "hiatus" gone on for so long. That changes tomorrow, even if it's a tiny update that is only sentences long. I have to break this cycle of telling myself 'next day'. >>3071 Sorry, any character discussed in a context of 'can become pregnant' is short-hand to 'of age' which is 18+. Indeed, it's not as if there weren't male servants there, or even in Castle Valachia, but why focus on them? Edward would have no interest in them. If there's an actual reason, there may get a distinction, but otherwise, there's no need to give that detail. An example would be when Edward decided on the gender of his taster. Please note any character who gets a picture used in the story is also considered 'of age'. This is absolute. For example, Bernkastel is a character, and was described physically and seen by Edward visually, but she will never get a picture included, because it would violate this rule because of her personally chosen physical appearance. Of course, there's nothing stopping a curious reader from googling "Bernkastel," because the name used still came from that model.
>>3076 I phrased that wrong. I meant "of age" in terms of some servants being too OLD to conceive children. Sorry for the confusion.
>>3077 Yes, this too. It's why there wasn't any specific attention put on the maids while Edward was still a prince, except for Elizabeth and Margaret.

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